Actually, what's funny is how you and Crusty seem to end up in study hall at the same time. Wow. That's a conclusion only you could have come to. I certainly didn't. Birds of a feather, and all that....pretty funny, though... So, in this little analogy of yours, is it you, or Crusty that is the troll? Actually, the only point you've proved is that you're trying to sidestep the issue...again. You know..the one that you brought up? Are you smart enough to go back and look at the above posts and figure it out, and you're just playing dum, and thinking everyone else is too, or ...... So...you're saying that you are NOT a troll, but that Crusty is? What are you saying? So you were talking out of both sides of your mouth when you referred to yourself and/or Crusty as a "troll," then? For someone who slings so much shit, you sure seem bothered when some of it gets caught and returned to you. Why is that? I think it still hasnt sunk in to you that I do not go out of my way to initiate a contact with you, for example, but that YOU do go out of your way to throw shit my way. Are you used to people just wiping your shit off of them, and it somehow surprises you when it's thrown back at you? Let's make it even MORE simple for you, since you just don't get it. YOU are the one slinging shit, Tank. You seem to sniff out when I post, and come running to throw shit. EXCUSE THE HELL OUT OF ME if every once in a great while I STOOP to your level. You are talking to Tank, correct? Since he is the one who referred to you as a troll. That would be from your limited vision, since the only time I'm at this level is when I'm responding to you or Tank, it seems. You actually don't occupy much of my time, Crusty...responding to you after you initiate some bullshit. It just .....doesn't take much, even though it seems like it occupies your entire existence. Your very important life would have more time if you didn't feel compelled to show up whenever I posted and throw poo, now wouldn't it? This much, I know. You've displayed your lack of memory of your hostile bullshit when you post drunk here, so there's even more that you could put in your extraordinary encyclopedia. I don't need to "save face" with you. You were NOT "right," and you will never, ever admit it. Denial is such a good friend to you, why hassle it? You're still trying to evade the question, by the way. You're also really boring. So, who was the troll you were referring to; you or Crusty? Or were you just rambling incoherently again? I'm getting bored with you fumbling around and trying to change the subject. You brought it up. Deal with it. You have no idea what I do and don't know. That's ...ludicrous. But...it's also completely normal for you to act like you do, and then bitch when I respond to your stupid little personal attacks. I see I hurt your feelings when I didn't see this post. My lack of response to it was mentioned by you, so here ya' go. No idea. Don't even know what you're talking about. Unless you're referring to the fact that you called yourself and Crusty a troll and then couldn't figure a way out of being called on it. Uh...examples? This is the first example of you trying to use your particular brand of yellow journalism. So...bullshit. Huh? Show me where I said anything about OJ being a miserable forum? wtf are you talking about, Tank? I think you're pissed off because I simply responded to you trash talking me. Kinda annoying, isn't it? Did I say "bullshit?" The "answer" is one you obviously don't like, because it's been given to you several times already. You don't like it when, after you've slung some shit my way, I finally get pissed off after ignoring it for many dozens of times, and get in your face. This seems to piss you off. But, a lot of things seem to piss you off, so one more doesn't bother you. It's pretty obvious you enjoy the grandstanding, so keep making yourself look like the angry, abusive soul you are by getting in my face. Not real smart, are you? But, remember that I never accused you of that. What I said was that [i]you[i]initiate the bullshit. Not me. Do we need to give it five minutes to sink in before you read another word? Try it! Obviously it hasn't sunk in yet after repeatedly being made very clear, so perhaps you need to only concentrate on one thing for five minutes and let it sink in. Otherwise you're going to continue this loop of seeking me out to post some kind of bullshit, then get all touchey feeley if it's one of those rare instances when I respond back to you. YOU INITIATE THE BULLSHIT. Just thought I'd give you another chance to let it sink in. Oopsey. More of the same misinformation on your part. Ask yourself, in your above quote...the part that says "every time your moniker is mentioned", "why and how was his moniker mentioned?" In other words, because you're so damn dense, it would be because you were slinging shit about me. OBVIOUS, ISN'T IT? Well..to most it would be. Yes, you are. Nope. I usually do ignore your little pot shots. Between you and Crusty, I've become accustomed to them. I actually do a very good job of ignoring your little infatuation with me. One straw was added to the pile recently that let me descend into your angry little fantasy land. Besides you demonstrating consistently that you know nothing about me, you still just..don't ...get it. If you didn't INITIATE bullshit about me, I would never be tempted to correct you, show you for the angry little guy you are, or ENGAGE WORDS with you in ANY MANNER. It is because you CHOOSE to be some kind of antagonistic internet bully or whatever you fantasize yourself as that occasionally I might respond to your crap. As I showed above, I generally do a very good job of ignoring you and Crusty, but every ONCE in a great while I might respond because I get tired of seeing you play out your fantasy about me. While I obviously realize that I look like an idiot for responding to you on the same level you're at, you might be the first to understand being pissed off and striking back at someone. Bullshit. Again, yellow journalism. You show me ONE instance where I call "HC, and OJ in particular, a trash heap,". Utter bullshit. Show me. Bullshit. Try some other way for a sympathy vote, Tank, because not even being stylistically something I'd say, it's just...utter bullshit. AGAIN, I don't "do so almost every single day." One more time. I do not INITIATE ANYTHING with either you or Crusty. You guys are very infantile in this. You scream like a stuck pig when you get nailed spreading lies and bullshit about me, and try your best to make it look like I have anything to do with either of you. I don't. The only time you've seen me say ANYTHING about you is after you've gone out of your way to make some stupid jab at me. Stop with the jabs, and you won't see me. It's just...that...simple. Until then, don't complain if you get called for whining about me and trying to get sympathy. Funny stuff. Ok...let's get this straight. I'm VERY TIRED of you LYING all over the internet about whatever it is you're talking about. I have NEVER, EVER said anything about you "going to kill your children," or said that you "was going to shoot stratcat with a weapon." It's not going to do much good to ask you to show me otherwise, although you have no problem bringing it up TIME AND TIME AGAIN. The one thing that you DID say you were drunk and would deny anyway, so what difference does it make. Except to a father of a daughter. I have never once "made shit up" about you, Tank. Something that you cannot lay claim to. You obviously don't remember shit, but you just as obviously don't mind throwing it. For example, many times you said that you were drunk on your ass when you went on belligerent posting sprees against me. Somehow I imagine you might not be in the same position as me to remember just what you did say. In fact, from your above ramblings, it's quite plain to see that you don't remember much of anything correctly, and put your own spin on it. You show me otherwise. Show me where I said anything about guns, for example. Or shut the hell up about it, because it just ain't so. Don't get me confused with anyone else, while you're at it. Something else you do consistently. Big ol' yawn. Yeah...you're known for "subtle humor." You trying to back out of something you said in this manner? Funny stuff. Try again. Well, your "sarcasm" aside, let's simply remind you ONE MORE TIME that the only time you see me is when you just can't resist spreading more bullshit about me. Out of the dozens of times I ignore it, and finally give in to the idiocy, you want to make it a limelight event. Keep spinning. The only thing that's sick is your feeling like it's necessary to continue to pull this crap, and not think that you're eventually going to get called on it. "grade school games?" I'm getting bored telling you that if you didn't start the "grade school games" that there wouldn't BE anything to see from me. It's absolutely none of your business where I do and don't post, and if you think that Open Jam is your exclusive resort to spread shit about me, you're wrong. You needn't be concerned about how it makes me appear, in an attempt to keep me from showing your bullshit for what it is. My "personal attacks!?" What the HELL are you talking about? Man, I've known you to be delusional, but this takes the cake! Ok, once again, you're REALLY confusing me here...what "personal attacks on OJ, HC and many, many forumites" are you referring to? Come on....try real hard to NOT change the subject and answer this one. seriously. I'm slowly realizing that when I look into the eye of the storm, it's possible to become the storm. That's why I consistently ignore you, Tank. If there's anything to be said about me responding to you on your level, it's that YOU need to understand that your bullshit isn't always going to fall on deaf ears, and that you will not always get away without being shown for what you are. Not one of my life goals, but still I might get pissed off like anyone else and finally respond to you and your bullshit. Me allowing you to show yourself for what you are, a delusional, angry liar, doesn't help my "rep," not that I worry about it. My memory is perfect about how you began your little dance with me, and what you did say and do. And, I am not the one who goes out of his way to try to do "spin control" on my "rep." It's simple. Man to man. You're a liar. An abusive, out of control, hate mongering, liar. I've given you every chance, after you lied in this thread, to show otherwise. More bullshit won't accomplish it; I'm asking you to show proof of all the crap you've accused me of. See there? You don't remember a thing, do you? Hahaha! Denial is a comfortable ally when you can't remember what you did or said, isn't it!? I've already said, I remember everything. I have no idea what your reference to black or white is, but it looks like your "creature of habit" reference should be reflected back to yourself, for continuing to initiate bullshit about me. By the way, since you brought it up, you would do well to do some serious thinking about "black or white," yen-yang, yes-no, up-down. It would help you immensely with your confusion issue. Spin, spin, spin. Did you mean "lose?" I care less about having the last word than I do with you thinking you can get away with your lying bullshit. I alread know that you're not going to stop that until I put a stop to it by letting you show yourself for what you are. I'll be waiting for all examples you're going to post that I've asked for. Well...that's just the kind of thing you'd pick out, Hoddy! You of course missed the part about all of that being a steaming pile of shit! He's been asked to provide any kind of evidence that one word of it is true...and he won't be able to because...it isn't! I don't imagine you'll be around to make a similar remark about Tank when it's proven what a "pathetic loser" he is though, because...well...'nuff said. Still evading the issue? Yep. Here, let me remind you: "Man to man. You're a liar. An abusive, out of control, hate mongering, liar. I've given you every chance, after you lied in this thread, to show otherwise. More bullshit won't accomplish it; I'm asking you to show proof of all the crap you've accused me of." Go ahead, big mouth. Put up or shut up. If you're going to spout all this crap, expect to be asked to prove it. Otherwise, you're just proving that you're full of bull. Take your time. You've been spouting this crap for MANY MONTHS without any kind of response from me until now. So, let's you see back up your lies. Let's see you prove that you know "what the fuck you are talking about." Take your time. It'll take forever, because I never said any of the things you've been accusing me of all these months. Come on. Let's see your stuff. I'm gonna enjoy this. You got nothing, huh? Didn't think so. Be a man, and admit that you've never ONCE heard ME say ANYTHING like what you accused me of saying. You don't have anything better than calling me a "tired old man?" That's cheesy...and weak. I don't "troll HC." Show me. Show me where I "troll HC." You're still just pissy because I'm calling your bluff and you...ain't got NOTHIN'! You know nothing at all of my life, yet you choose to lie about me on internet forums. Why not just drop it, Tank. You're looking really bad here. After all this crap for all these months and years, you've got nothing but lies to fall back on, and it pisses you off to no end to be called on it. That's..the truth of the matter. OOH! The Judge! Who appointed you, by the way? You're going to keep evading the issue about you being a lying sack of shit, aren't you!? It's not a question about what I think about you. It's a question of you being a liar, and continually setting yourself up for being called on it. You don't like that, huh? Well, I probably won't be reminding you about it as much as you were doing it, because that's not my style. Right now though, I'm relishing how easy you are allowing yourself to be proven a liar. And how easy you're letting yourself be shown for trying to sidestep the issue. Man...you are thick-headed: Originally posted by daddysguitar Still evading the issue? Yep. Here, let me remind you: "Man to man. You're a liar. An abusive, out of control, hate mongering, liar. I've given you every chance, after you lied in this thread, to show otherwise. More bullshit won't accomplish it; I'm asking you to show proof of all the crap you've accused me of." Go ahead, big mouth. Put up or shut up. If you're going to spout all this crap, expect to be asked to prove it. Otherwise, you're just proving that you're full of bull. Take your time. You've been spouting this crap for MANY MONTHS without any kind of response from me until now. So, let's you see back up your lies. Let's see you prove that you know "what the fuck you are talking about." Take your time. It'll take forever, because I never said any of the things you've been accusing me of all these months. Come on. Let's see your stuff. I'm gonna enjoy this. " I said you were gonna keep sidestepping...and you are. Come on...redundancy being what it is...just read the thread, Tank. And put up or shut up about what you've been saying. I've been extremely specific about what you've been saying, so now let's see you be extremely specific instead of just talking bullshit. You know it, I know it....keep on dancing, Tank. It's funny! I know of NO ONE ELSE besides you who says anything about this being true. And it's so far removed from what I know you HAVE said over the past few years that it's.....funny. Get a grip. Do you seriously not even know when you're lying? Is that what you're trying to pull off here? Face it, Tank...you've been lying abusively for many, many months and it just plain ticks you off that you're finally being called on it. So....you're a liar and a coward. Afraid to admit that you have both been lying and never had the foggiest idea what you were talking about. Face it, Tank....you got...nothing. Keep trying to change the subject all you want, it ain't working. That's a good demonstration of the limits of your intelligence. When you are called on back up your mouth, you back down and decide to say "prove that I'm lying." See, I could say "Tank wears soiled panties for socks" and create a big uproar, but when asked to "prove it," I'd be powerless...know why? Because as far as I know, that'd be BULLSHIT. And, you've done the same thing here. Even in this very thread, you've accused me of things that I immediately said "show me." And.....you haven't done it. You just keep spouting off. So...I have to say....bullshit. That's all your gonna hand out, because that's all you have. Bullshit. If you want to be a coward and not face up to the fact that you've been given a chance to prove otherwise and can't do it, then you just go ahead and keep...waiting. C'mon....here's an easy one, even for you, I'd think: Quote by Tank: You hardly ever post in OJ. In fact, you bad moth it constantly. Ok...show me. Big talk, but no response from you after repeated attempts. If I bad "moth" OJ "constantly," you'd think you'd be able to come up with ONE instance of it, right? Or are you going to get all lame and say that I deleted it? Hahahaha! Liar. Hahaha! You've deluded yourself into thinking that your day was more productive than mine, and that you're a better family man, all in a few sentences! Good for you! It must be a greater effort for you to type than it is for me, is my only guess. It'd be easy for me to brag about what I accomplished today, but who the hell cares? Certainly not you! You sound real happy about your wood getting taken care of! Good for you! That's the spirit! Let's drag up some more of those old cliche's that you attribute to me while you're at it! You know...it's always refreshing to see you still stuck in the wrong rut, and skipping like an old record. How about that one about the guns? That'd be good. Let's see you repeat that lie again! Or...how the OJ one..you know, the one I quoted just above. You still haven't been able to do anything but shout shit about that one, but don't let that stop you...it hasn't yet! You're bailing, aren't you? Hahaha! See..."stalemate" means "you lose." You're the one shouting the shit. You're the one lying. And you're the one not stepping up to the plate. It's obvious that I asked you repeatedly to put up or shut up, and now your only "tactic" is to turn the tables. Weak. Ok...so, you're a liar. A bigmouthed liar. And you want to let it stand like that, because you've got nothing going on here besides making further baseless allegations. Ok...that's been your thing all along, so that's going to continue to be your thing...got it. While that's almost funny, I think you better stick to internet comedy clubs. You might get someone to pretend they're laughing. It's also no question of "better." It's a question of who's going out of their way to stir shit up, and also being a not very convincing liar in the process. You ought to know about that kind of stuff. Well...oh never mind, you're not worth it. Too bad you can't deal one on one instead of banking on help from your "buddies." Been that way from the beginning too, if you remember. Oh, ...silly me; you don't remember shit! You just won't admit that you've been making months and months worth of crude baseless allegations and you're being nailed on it. I'm not looking for satisfaction here...and I know from the lack of integrity that you have that you're not going to admit to being a cowardly liar, but hey...since I'm tired of it, I think I'll just remind you a while longer that you're an abusive cowardly liar. And watch as you continue to not do a thing about it...because it's the truth. Go ahead...try turning it around again instead of stepping up to the plate. Make some more baseless allegations...... Actually, the simplest task was proving you to be an abusive, repetitive liar. That was easy. Apparently it's amazing to you that I don't consider you that important. I'm not concerned about "answering your earlier post," since you decided way back that you were going to not answer mine. Get it? If you want to be silly and make it known publicly that you're a lying coward and you've been nailed on it, I'm fine with that. No matter how you try to change the subject or reverse the tables, the facts are plain that you've been making baseless allegations and just plain lying for months on end, and I'm glad to see that you're just plain frozen here....from here on in it looks like you're just going to go in circles...but you've been doing that ever since I've been acquainted with you anyway. funny stuff. There's another one, Tank....come on...break down and quit making allegations with absolutely nothing but bullshit behind them. Tank...you ain't got shit but shit. At least you have plenty of that. You know how cowardly you look by accusing me of shit and then not having the balls to ....prove it? And then saying "If I'm lying...prove it." Face it, Tank. You lost any balls you ever had on this one. Gee willikers. I didn't think you'd ask a question and give the answer in the same post! Sooner or later you gotta come up for air when you're being buried in bullshit, Smokey. Too bad if some of the bullshit hits the guys throwing it, huh? Whiner. Check his last post...he's speechless. Got nothing but lies going for him, and now that it's been pointed out in a manner he can't deny, he's....speechless. You would certainly know all about that! Crusty. We all know how much more valuable of a person you are than me. And, in case we forget, we'll be constantly reminded of it. Your ignorance of my musicality had nothing to do with you being an asshole. I'm not sure I see the irony in that. But then I again, I am sure that I don't care. Gee thanks, Uv. I'm glad you're speaking for "most of us." And...I'm glad to see that you have absolutely no context of why this thread is going the way it has. I do know you well enough to know that you wouldn't have let it go as far as I did before you started speaking up about the crap that Crusty has posted about ....well..you, if it had been you. For sure. And...I have to say that not responding to it is one way to "cope" with it, but you do have to come up for air when the bullshit is being dumped on you. So...unless you want to correct me about how you would be responding in exactly the same circumstance, perhaps you should refrain from your judgements. Especially the ones where you speak for "most of us." "buddy?" Hahaha! Hey Smokey, I didn't realize you lived next door to me and were familiar with my life, and that yours is so much better. So, your "real life" is better than mine? Share it...how is your life so rich in comparison to mine, Smokey? "dipshit," huh? Ok..true colors and all. Obviously I can't say "read what you said" and think it's going to be clear to you, so I won't. Where the hell do you get off suggesting that I don't "spend some time with the family?" I already said that you not only don't know much about me, but feel like your opinions should sound like you do. Now I guess I have to also ask "what makes you think that your family life is better than mine?" Where the hell do you get off, Smokey? If you have a personal problem with me and want to use this thread to pile on, then just keep having at it. Don't think that I'm not going to point that out, though. I'm aware of your "feelings" for Crusty....and that he was the only member at your forum that you created to have a "no holds barred" place where you wouldn't have to deal with people who had different personalities than you. How's that going for ya'? Realize what you're doing here and perhaps you won't feel a need to pile on ...but history tells me otherwise, fella. Good luck on that whole guilt thing about you and your family. ps: and..NO..I haven't been drinking. You seem to be attributing your problems to me. I don't drink and post here, unlike...some others who are posting on this thread. I have to admit that I could expect no less coming from you. If you reduce this to "who want(s) this to end," then that is an entirely different story than me wanting hundreds of cheap, lying potshots being taken by some people who have personal grudges against me to either come to an end or be shown for what they are. There's a little button that you have to depress in order to view this innocuous thread...and if you don't click on it, you won't be so bothered by it's..or my...existence. If you're looking to participate in some drama...that's a different story, I guess..right? Funny, self-righteous stuff! Not sure if a paid professional would help you, but you'd do good to find out. No one but me, huh? Yeah, you're friendly mannerisms and tone have never backfired on you before, I'm sure. "Bad judgement call on my part," you say? I'd say you're used to that. Apparently what you're not considering is that I'm doing exactly that..."stepping up." I'm stepping up to you, for example, after many months of personal attacks by you going without response, and calling your bluff. And you're absolutely being a blusterous coward about being called out as an abusive liar. As far as being "too dumb to realize that" goes, I'd say that you're being pretty thick headed here. I've stayed the course on this, and not deviated from it..while you haven't responded once in an honest manner..because you have nothing honest to say. You misrepresenting me doesn't stop with your "guns" bullshit, it continues on even in the above post. I'm simply calling you on your abusive little misrepresentations, after months of ignoring you. Why on earth are you trying to get out of this by pretending to be concerned about my "rep?" My friends and acquaintances know me well enough to know that me responding to your little Nancy bullshit doesn't have anything to do with anything other than trying to either put a stop to your crap, or point it out for what it is. As far as "the last word" goes, I'm completely aware that you're not going to admit to a damn thing, Tank. Unless that were to happen, you're going to stay in your rut, and never grow up. Whether I do or don't respond to your childish BS is likely not going to change much, but because I responded to you once and let you be shown for the lying, abusive internet coward that you are at least lets me get a grin whenever you pull your shit. By the way...you just lied or misrepresented me again: "By your own words, no on likes me or takes me seriously" You say "show me," and I keep doing it...keep it up... An insult? Not intended as such. Take it exactly at face value, because that's how it was meant. Nothing more, nothing less. You're "pretty sure?" Why don't you come out and say what you think? I actually did, and then I had to tell you that I did. And...apparently that's not good enough for you, so then why don't you make it easy and tell me what your problem is? Did I use too many words? Good for you, Crusty. You're every attempt to paint me in the manner you wish just might win through sheer repetition. "Don't argue with an idiot. He'll bring you down to his level, and win through experience. " My "online friends" don't have their sniffers out for bullshit about me, and congregate on it. Absolutely part of what I've been pointing out about you. Sniff, sniff....keep going! Don't have a white hat. If I did, it would look pretty bad from all the crap you've been throwing. Who's the smartass!? Gee..I wonder if that's something that's gonna get "resolved" here on open jam? Could be that this isnt' the place for it, huh? Hey, you're the one who felt compelled to jump in. I can't "handle?" I have no problem "handling" whatever it is you're referring to. and it's very amusing that you say "a shitload of others," as the whole point I've been making is that I'm tired of putting up with...a shitload of shit from just a couple of people. So...if you don't like it, as I said, you don't need to click on it. Whatever. I'll "snap at" whoever I please, and especially when they're piling on me. Context. Well, if you're going to join the patrol here, you might as well really do it, instead of alluding to what a "laid back" guy you are. Or...stay out of it. You know...one or the other. Lay your "valid opinion" right on out there. That is simply what I was referring to when I said "I'd expect no less from you." You assumed otherwise, and got sarcastic about it. I'm absolutely aware that you have no idea of context, and no desire to change that. No idea where you're coming up with that tripe, Crusty. I don't think strato's "stupid," and I don't think you saying that I said that makes it so. As far as "One" browsing this thread, I'll say the same thing to you that I did to Tank, in so many words. I don't need to be concerned about what anyone whose opinion of my I value regarding what they may think after reading this thread. People who know me...know me. And, they'll know that I'm doing exactly as I say I'm doing; being very tired of having you and Tank spread bullshit all over the place about me, in an unprovoked manner, and thinking that I'm going to never respond to your crap. If I look stupid for finally responding to what you are instigating, to someone who either doesn't care for me to begin with, or is a complete stranger to me except through this thread, then so be it. I get tired of not responding to your bullshit and hoping you'll just go away. Simple as that. "Peace offering!?" What "peace offering?! Have I missed something here? I did just review, and it looks like your last post is the proof that you've been saying you wanted that you are an abusive liar. Seriously. You've just given your own proof. That list is just pack of shit. Here: Let's review... Originally posted by Tank: Has daddysguitar posted clips of his playing on HC? No. Yes. Lie number one. Not that this has anything to do ..anything. Has daddysguitar posted a pic of himself where he isn't hidden, except for one eye, behind his guitar? No. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?? Has daddysguitar ever posted any gigs for people to come hear him play? No. Did I say "What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Believe I did. You're really reaching here, Tank. Has daddysguitar tried to set himself up as the "wise elder" of HC? Yes. No. If you have a personal problem with how you perceive me, then you need to work it out. I enjoy being just one more person talking guitars and music, for the most part. I learn a lot posting on the forums, and I try to share. And, I certainly don't make a habit of initiating bullshit about people in an abusive manner, unlike yourself. Was daddysguitar one of the main people crying for moderators a few years ago? Yes. No. I don't remember anyone "crying for moderators. Was daddysguitar a moderator? Yes, he was Sliver. Did daddysguitar delete my posts with my bands music in them after he claimed I don't even play? Yes. No. In fact, you say that you have "evidence" of me "gloating" that I did this to you in a pm from me to you, yet even though I wouldn't believe it if I saw it because I know that it's more of your bullshit, I have to wonder why you haven't posted this bogus crap you say you have. If it were true, your style would absolutely dictate that you would have posted it. So...bullshit. This is exactly the kind of bullshit that you have been repeating for months on end that is totally and completely fabricated. No. I was personally invited, by people who appreciate me for who I am. And, I didn't see the memo that said I wasn't allowed to participate in whatever website I choose to participate in. Check my posting history. I never "left." Again....what does that have to do with you being an abusive liar?Simple enough. No. Again, simple enough, and a further example of the tripe you've been propagating. I also notice that you've altered the way that you're presenting this particular lie, since I've asked you for proof of it. It appears that you now are changing your story to allude to me "talking shit about HC, and Open Jam in particular" only "over at his closed forum. Because I pointed out that you were...lying, you've change your context. Check it out. I don't need to badmouth any forum. I don't "get it." I don't even "get" why you try to say that, except to try to "rally the troops" in some manner. Cheap tactics, but bound to work if I get tired of calling your lying bluff and just let you keep doing it, like I have been for months. Plain old "baffle them with bullshit, Tank. What's "going on?" in OJ? Again, are you trying to rally the troops or something? What on earth does that have to do with you being an abusive liar? Absolutely nothing. Again, you're not very good at this "change the picture" thing, but you could be effective through sheer blind persistence. You're lying again, Tank. Where do I "claim to dislike or even hate most of OJ?" Who writes your material? If you're going to keep tossing this BS around, be prepared to be asked where you got it from...and then back it up! Be a partially mature man, Tank...get with it. Tank...your fascination with me is...astounding. I'd like to say that I'm flattered, but you're just a very small irritation to me. Like a mosquito, I finally slapped you. You're a liar. You've just proved it. And...it was very easy to make you do it. You laid your own trap. If you saying that I'm a "sad old man" is the best you can come up with while you're being proved to be a blustering abusive liar, then I ...smile. No you're not...you just did it! So...your "respect" is just a facade, is the message I'm getting from you. Why not be real? If you want to get into an "assclown rant," then it looks like you just opened the door for it, despite you pretending otherwise.
Yeah..well...ok. You're problems should stay your problems, but don't impress them onto me, ok? You've "been there?" I have no other way to say this, with you bringing it up; perhaps you should follow your own advice...again. Perhaps this is where you quit pretending that you "respect" me and say what you really think? Or..have you already done that..in your mind? I clearly respond to your garbage, and let you prove yourself to be exactly what I said, and this is your best? Hahahahahaha! "No one is going to bother to read?" This isn't a "popularity contest", Tank. What is "the point" that I proved to you , "yet again?" Clearly, the point is that you...are an abusive liar. If you think that your "carefully crafted" list of crap wasn't worth responding to, what the hell did you put it up for? So...let me get this straight. It's now "long winded garbage" because I showed how your allegations were...lying bullshit. Ri-i-i-i-i-i0ght! You're quite welcome. You know what? As you continue to pretend that you "respect me" while you run me down yet again, undertstand one thing...this thread finally accomplished what I knew it would...Tank was compelled to make a list of the same bullshit he's been spreading for many, many months...and I instantly was able to show that he was simply on a personal hate agenda that was based on lying bullshit. I don't care that this somehow attracted your attention and made you feel compelled to enter into it, although I do question your motives for it. Regardless, it sure looks like the kind of thing that would be easy for someone to ignore if it's none of their business. Even without a bibliography and index. Hey...you're lying...and, I proved it...or should I say..you proved it. You need to change your "prove it" thingey...it's dead. I just proved you were lying...and you didn't have the balls to address it. Come on, fella...you're really lookin' weak here. You brought up a list...and I showed you very clearly that you were lying. Trying to gloss over it isn't going to work. Address it or admit you're a lying coward. See there..."no one cares who is lying." That's the attitude of....a liar. Very simple. I'm glad you're continuing to acknowledge it, no matter how lamely you're doing it. You're also continuing to act like I need to care about what someone who doesn't care for me personally and showed up on this bullshit thread like flies on shit has to say about me. I don't. You seem to be concerned about validation of bullshit all of a sudden. Let's see you validate the bullshit that you laid out, Tank. Come on...be a man. Step up to the plate and address all the lying crap that you itemized and that I immediately addressed. If it was worth you saying it, it was worth me showing it for the bullshit it was...and it should be worth you defending it, if it's not complete and total bullshit. Seems like you're not interested in following up now that you've been proven to be someone who is very interested in lying about me, for whatever twisted reasons you have. See...I'm sick of it. And you...have been proven to be an abusive liar, using your own words, and are still trying to act like you can sleaze your way out of it some way. "No one cares who is lying." Bullshit. I care. "The threads have long since been deleted." Bullshit. Your allegations have very little to do with "threads," and more to do with your little mental problem. You choose to make a list, and then I discount it completely, and am more than willing to take it as far as necessary to discount what you brought up...and you come up with "those threads have been deleted." I guess when you throw out "I still have pm's where you were gloating about deleting my music" you're admitting that you are NOW LYING, correct? That wasn't a "thread that got deleted," Tank...That was a baseless lying allegation by you, no matter how you try to change the subject. Where? You know..that part where I immediately and concretely answered you, and you said "no one is interested in reading that." That would be before the part where you said "no one is interested in who is lying." Right in the head? Tank, I have a great memory, and you've shown that you not only don't remember things, but then compensate by inventing bullshit. When you've been called on it, you just continue to try and dance around the issues. Give it up. Step up and be factual, or quit with the cowardly bullshit. You've certainly been given every chance. I finally found something that is both funny and honest. "sounds like your pothead friends have some good shit" Tank, that's from your laughable "evidence" that I or anyone else would ever have deleted a thread that was simply somebody playing music. I knew if I got you to post it, it would simply be more crap. You really hang on to stuff like that on your hard drive? Wow! Ok, by the way..I can see that you're not fascinated by me. So...now y'all (who are not obsessed with hating me) are going to start a "dg appreciation forum." You guys have fun with it. I wish you all the success on your new venture. If you could keep your "appreciation" of me there, instead of bringing it here or anywhere else, that'd be swell, but judging from history, certainly not expected of you. Like I said, have fun with it! It certainly appears that he said it about you. If you're going to quote it, live by it. Bullshit. Pure and simple. You're a real bullshit artist, all right. You can't even come up with any "line of attack" on your own, so you simply use mine. "been caught lying" and "worm your way out of it." Taking a page out of my book doesn't become you, Tank. Let's be very factual and blunt here on this issue, which you'll find a way to weasel out of anyway. You're saying that stratcat will confirm what you have just said? Because if you're NOT saying that, then you've just been caught being full of shit again. Yeah, but....it didn't work! Because it certainly doesn't show anything about me or anybody else deleting music, for goodness sakes. That's beyond silly. But..it's obviously not going to change the way you think. I'm gonna love seeing you use stratcat for a reference on this one. Hahaha! Boy...you're at a total loss here, arencha'! You've certainly had no problem following me around and instigating shit wherever I post, Tank. It's hilarious to see you getting so deeply wounded that you come up with this. You're finally getting the point I've been trying to make about both you and Tank. Congratulations. Now if you can just follow through on your realization and find something better to do with your time than post crap about me, you'll be on your way. thanks You seriously think I'd take anything you say at face value? Hahaha! It's so very odd that, just like Tanks comment "nobody cares who's lying," you think that I'd be flattered to have a bunch of wingnuts sitting around having a bitchfest about ...me! You're missing the whole point of this little exchange. I simply got tired of pretending that I didn't notice the bullshit that was being spread about and on me. That doesn't mean that I "love it." If it's beyond Tank to realize what he said about lying, then it's also probably beyond you to think that I do NOT like to have bullshit spread about me. Fact. Funny. I missed that part. And who's "us?" You and someone else who likes to fling shit? Oh..ok..got it. Can't quite follow your rambling, and who you might be referring to..yourself? I dunno...anyway..sounds like you think you do, so I'm sure you'll make it clearer. Yeah, you have some real problems you need to work out, that much is obvious. Self image problems you feel are created at your work or something? Never mind..I really don't want to know what makes you feel belittled and angry. Oh..."pussy" and "cheap dime novel?" all-rightey then! I'm astounded at your grasp of the language. Yes, you're still almost getting the point. If you shut the fuck up, then I won't respond to the bullshit that you go out of your way to post. I'm not the one flinging it, Crusty. You are. If you don't like me occasionally returning it, then it couldn't happen if you hadn't thrown it in the first place...so...take your advice to heart. Not everyone enjoys your little internet tough guy foul mouthed crap. Certainly not me. Hey...I thought you were going to take a bullet for me. Well, you and the "bullshitting" part rings a bell. Nothing else does. If you're going to allude to something, why not be specific. See...anything else is..dare I say...bullshit. Of course, that's probably why you did your little trick. Cute. Worth what? You calling me a prick? Or worth you being asked to elaborate and be specific instead of tossing unsubstantiated bullshit out? End of the line for me fellers. I think that we've had a good enough draw of people who wanted to pile on me here. Lots of pretty pictures and drama. I'm sure you'll be able to keep this going without more help from me. It's been real.....funny. Just a general comment before I get at all specific. "Millions of fly's can't be wrong..eat the bullshit." You guys keep having at it. No none of my "real" friends have come here. I absolutley knew as soon as I saw a couple of flys showing up here on this thread that I could very predictably draw a crowd of one kind of fly here...the flys that seem to congregate on any thread where I'm being "internet attacked." The first person on this forum that is also on this thread to do this was Tank...way, way back when. He's very predictably continued to do this for years now. Literally all of the rest of you have done on this thread what you have done many other times....seen a chance to join in a pack and shower shit on me. I'll apologize in advance if I'm wrong about this, but anyone pretending to care about me and then showering me with shit on this thread sure seems like they're full of bull. Pretty hard to misinterpret actions, no matter what the words are. Uv=No. All of a sudden you're NOT my buddy. Don't know where you would have gotten that, but let's be clear about it. And YES, you're a Drama Queen. My memory is absolutely fine, and although I've given you a chance to improve it by asking if you have something besides unsubstantiated bullshit, you've simply piled more BS on. In fact, I still have dozens of angry, psychotic ramblings from you in one box, and if you had chosen to be specific about which instance of losing your mind you're talking about, I guess I could have been specific with you. And.."better than anyone else?" Never said I was. If you're feeling belittled for some reason, I'd say it's one more symptom you should be bringing up on your next visit to whoever is prescribing the drugs you're on. Yes, it is "fucking amazing" trying to deal with you. On the subject of "Mr. Wonderful" and multiple monikers...If you had something to contribute about him being banned and me being "confused" about it, I wonder why you waited till now to bring it up? Also...are you ignoring the meat of the matter, about multiple monikers and bullshit? Are you disagreeing with it? Or are you simply using me not seeing a post by "Mr. Wonderful" with "banned" under it as an example of my stupidity? whatever. stratosteve; didn't want to leave you out. Nice job with your picture thingey. Smokey: I couldn't tell you when the last time I had a beer was, and it's not because I'm drunk; it's because I simply don't drink much at all. Perhaps it's something you do frequently enough that you presume I do, but you'd be wrong there. By the way, I closed my mouth when I saw you getting ready to piss in it. Thanks for the warning. Crusty....comparing me to Saddam...whatever. And no, my "real friends" aren't attracked to bullshit like this, but I've clearly demonstrated who is. Tank...you've been clearly demonstrated to be nothing but a cowardly, abusive liar. My work is done. You've been going in circles now in denial, and that's not going to change. It ain't fun anymore. When you say "no on cares who's lying" and continue doing it, then say that I'm taking my ball and going home....it's barely funny enough for a response, but I didn't want to leave you out...I mean, that'd be "chickenshit," right? Keep having fun with the feast, fellas. You're just doing it again, Tank. Circles. Nothing we haven't been over, only a few more additional lies on your part. You didn't post jack shit about me or anybody else deleting a "music post." You said that you had a pm from me gloating to you about how I deleted a "music post" from you. And...I'm calling bullshit. Again. You are an angry, deluded person who is more than willing to let yourself be known as that every single time you post here. I haven't "backpedaled" at all, but it sure seems to be familiar territory for you. I "attacked" you for keeping your pm's? What a baby! I'm no "martyr,"Tank...you just continually both show up slinging shit about me, and then try to make it appear as though you're not. Now I'm going in circles: Tank...if you're going to proactively sling shit about people, don't scream like a stuck pig when they catch some of it and throw it back at you. I'm not the one showing up after a post of yours and slinging shit...that is your ballgame. You trying to dodge that issue isn't going to work. And it's too late for you to try and avoid the fact that I addressed your litany of lies one by one, and showed you for the abusive liar you are. AND at the same time, showed you to be someone who would rather confuse the issue than address it factually. Yes...I'm aware that it's not going to sink in. For someone who made comments about raping my seven year old daughter when you were drunk, it's funny to hear you say "you just wanted a fight." Your entire history of communications with me has been where YOU sought out a conflict. Not the other way around. You're worthless, lying scum. Good for you. It is after all, a great example of your style. Both your abusiveness, and your lying about it. You see, Tank...there's some things a father won't forget...or invent. You inventing whatever you did about a gun and all the other crap you've been spewing at any chance you can get that I've been able to mostly ignore is one issue, but this is a completely separate one. No way I can invent or forget the night you pulled what you did. And...it was only one of many when you either get drunk and do this or else it's just in your innate personality. Either way, I know the truth, and you've proven time and again in this thread that you are not only a liar, but that you have a very creative imagination to help you sleep. For someone who admits to not caring about lying, and having been proved to be a liar of immense magnitude...you're being silly. Live with it. You already are. No. I didn't "passively aggresively suggest" that they were "fake." I said that they quite obviously did not...say what you said they did. You said that you had pm's from me gloating that I had eliminated a music posting thread of yours. You don't have that. You lied. I've repeated this several times. If you could just get over your amateur shrink status long enough to read and comprehend something, perhaps you'd see that you ....are incorrect! The way that you try to change the story is pathetic, because it's all here...you're lying, and you just can't change it, Tank. You didn't "prove" anything other than your belligerent thick-headedness. If what you have done is deemed "above and beyond" to you, then you have very low standards. Your seeming fascination with me and pussy is very odd. Real? Keep it real, Tank. Post 'em if you got 'em! Don't act like I'm ignoring the truth. Bring it on! So far all you've done is misrepresent the truth. Weren't you going to get Stratcat to back you up? What happened to that? And seriously...what happened to pm's of me gloating that I'd deleted music posts of yours. You're being totally ridiculous, and you may come to realize it. Regardless...it's obvious. Repetition of something doesn't make it true...only boring and repetitive. I've gone way past "boring and repetitive" myself with you. And the truth isn't going to make you change one iota. Wow! So many experts on how the human brain works! Where did you get all this experience? I didn't know that I was doing this, and you did! Man! I was going to "trick" these guys, huh! Cool! And although I've said repeatedly (ad nauseum) that I was just tired of ignoring Tank and Crusty's bullshit, I must have just dreamt that up! Man, you're clever to figure all that out! And when I said that with all this bullshit, the fly's would come running to feast, I just didn't know what I was talking about, did I!? Bwuhahahaha! Looks like a picnic to me! You just don't get it, do you? The only people who have a problem with me are the ones who smelled the stank and came here to feast on the bullshit. "so many people?" That's a joke. Look at who's posting on this thread! And..do that whole "math thing." I'm not concerned about this collection. I am totally familiar with why they all feel the way they do about me. And...I don't expect you to understand anything other than you're simply one more little teeny weeny fly. Taking the "high road" with Crusty and Tank is so obviously a joke and ineffective that it's only mildly amusing. And I also know from past experience that you not only love grinding your axe on me, but you just as obviously are relishing this chance to do so. Deny that? Like I said, it was extremely predictable who would show up on this thread...and who wouldn't. Keep having your fun! Let's take this out of order.... Show me where I said "daily basis." Or...you're a liar..again. And...unlike you, I didn't copy your crap onto my hard drive. In your demented case, your cut and paste didn't work for you, because your selective memory did NOT match up with your copy and paste. And...since it's between you and me, not anyone else, it doesn't matter to this father what word games you try to use when trying to deny what you said about my daughter being raped. All the crap that you've spewed in confusion about this over the past many months is simply a ridiculous smokescreen by you, and has had absolutley no effect on my memory. Now...let's see that "daily basis" quote from you Uv, you're absolutely known as a whining drama queen, and if you're bound and determined to show it, you just go for it! I'm tired of trying to tiptoe around your demented personality. You failing comprehension again? Why insist that I think that you or any of the other people on this thread who congregated here are of any concern to me after the crap I've put of with from them and tried to ignore? Man....I repeat...I don't "piss so many people off." You can pretty much tally them up on this thread. And I said that I knew that. Why did I know that? Oh geez...this is getting way beyond ridiculous. Flys feasting on each others "poo." Stick your nose right in it, since you insist! and...you keep right on putting the "fun" in "dysfunctional." Tank...you are definitely splitting hairs here. You're lamely trying to weasle out yet again from another unsubstantiated bit of crap by saying "supposedly." Ok....show me where I "supposedly" said anything about "daily." Or get over your big self. and...it's "dictionary." and "look" but...who's splitting hairs, right? Now, first...I can't tell you how many times I've said that I don't care how this looks to "anyone else." You should be familiar with the way that this forum was operated when you pulled what you did. But...I'm coming to realize that your memory is either not very good at all, or you just plain don't want to exercise it...or your just enjoy lying. "everyone is laughing at you?" Funny...it's a great big world, and I don't think that this thread and it's occupants are much of a concern to my appreciation of humor. I just believe it's possible that you are overstating it. As I said, I have no problem with what any else believes on this subject; I was there..it was just you and me then, and I still think of it that way, Tank. You keep saying "anyone" like I haven't made it clear that this has nothing to do with anyone else...and that's why I said I don't care. You've just made another claim that I'd like to see you substantiate. Now, I already know in advance that you'll try to weasel your way out of it, but just like every other unsubstantiated lie you've made here, I'll ask you to show me ONE INSTANCE where I've "posted a thread to get people to rally around." Show me one. Not my style, unlike you. I haven't appealed a single time for someone to "rally around" me. I knew in advance the kind of "rallying around" that would be occuring here, and I had and have no problem knowing the fly's have zoomed in here. And why on earth are you still saying "people are starting, yada yada yada?" How many times do I have to say it? I'm absolutely sure after you made such a big deal out of "getting the last word" on this thread that even though you've been shown to be a complete bullshit "artist," you'll continue to try to make it look like I should be intimidated by you showing me for "how I look." I knew how "I'd look" when I responded to you. And I knew exactly what collection of flys would come zooming in. Nothing new here.....absolutely nothing new. I've never once made a public display of "rallying people" to get someone banned. And I'm very familiar with you getting some buddies to come yapping at me. So...more bullshit from you, Tank. I'm only imaging you're wrong on both counts, Uv. I'll take the liberty of posting a little something of yours here that shows why I say this. "I will no longer reply to any of your messages PM's or on the board." So...you come here with your grievances over being addressed on another forum. Very cowardly and uncool of you, fella. Bingo! We have a winner! Oops..I mean, a whiner! I've asked you a couple of times here to get real and say something instead of whining about mysterious unknown things that you keep hinting at...but you just keep coming back and whining again! Who are you talking about me forwarding whatever mysterious thing it is that you're talking about to? The guy who owns the forum? What do you think "Admin Team" means? Your hysterics are well known and obvious. Let's be very clear here. This is not the place for you to address whatever imagined grievances you have. If in fact the only person I can imagine you talking about is who you are talking about, then you should be taking it up with HIM, not Tank, Crusty or whoever you're trying to get chummy with. This is really low, Uv. I'm asking you to quit involving another forum here. Man..I try to track with you, but I do get lost. What does "I saved this nothing to prove that I did nothing" actually mean? No one "betrayed your trust," if you're trying to not be public with something because you want to later deny it or whatever your problem is, then fess up! I've learned that "private messages" are bullshit, when you're dealing with someone who is either going to post it on an internet board somewhere, or is using it as a way to say something that they're afraid to say in public. Did you send me a dozen pm's in an hour when you were off your rocker one night, and I asked someone to make it stop, or what? I don't have any idea what you're talking about, but for someone who says that I accuse you of whatever it is you're whining about, you're sure not being very clear about what you're actually whining about. Does "I saved this nothing to prove that I did nothing" refer to you or to someone else posting here? You've admitted that you don't know anything about Tank. I do. So...I certainly wouldn't use information from YOU to process my "feelings" for Tank, would I? I'm "allowed to be wrong?" Man, you are whack. If you want to stick your nose in something that has nothing to do with you and pretend that you're doing it for some noble reason, then you continue fooling yourself. I don't care about having it "both ways." I care about calling a spade a spade. You in fact came onto this thread to pile on me, and you know it. I mean...how on earth did you even sniff out this thread? Yes..it's obvious you have an axe to grind with me, and you definitely picked the wrong place to do it. As I said, Uv, you obviously picked this thread to grind your axe with me on some unknown whiney issue you have from another forum. Grow up, and quit dishonoring that forum by piling on me with these other malcontents. I missed this. I mean..not only did I miss where you said this, if you did.... ...but I am still missing what the hell you're talking about. Where did I say I wanted to "drag others into this?" I said for you to quit your whining and take it somewhere else, if it came from somewhere else. SIMPLE. Quit acting like I'm asking you for anything here. I'll put it as simple as I can, Uv. You haven't made any sense here. You're whining about something, but I have no idea what you're going on about! Continual mysterious allusions, with me continuing to ask you to be specific instead of just spreading bullshit....and now seemingly out of nowhere you're bringing a mysterious "her" out of your hat, and acting like I'm asking you to bring "her" into this discussion when I have no idea what you're talking about. One more time. If something came from somewhere else, deal with it there. Or continue to be your El Mysterioso persona..whatever. It's your drama. Nope...just bored with the repetitive empty personal attacks and other bullshit....like this from you, for example. Nice to see your true colors again, smokey. Wow! Good luck with that whole "I'm a manly man, and not a fruitcake" thing you have goin' on there! And that thing where you know what I think? Hahahaha! I thing you got hung up on the whole "think" part of it. Utter bullshit. Here's why. You're meager attempts at painting me out to be something other than what I am are just plain silly. "When he does address me he's always trolling or making childish comments." Ok...let's have you be honest for once, Tank. You know for a fact that I NEVER "address you" unless you have made some bullshit comment about me. So..you have it completely backwards, fella. You're stupid angry little snipes at me usually go unanswered by me, and you're screaming like a stuck pig in this thread because I finally got tired of it and flung some of your "poo" back at you. Let's talk about "the first word," Tank. Not "the last word." You have been posting crap about me or attacking me almost as long as I've been posting here. Your infatuation is astounding, as is your belligerent determination. "hide?" What on earth is so inviting about conversing with YOU? P-U-E-! What is the infatuation you have with me, Tank? I'm not "crawling up on a cross." I'm asking you....what is your infatuation with me? I assure you I'm quite happy not having you pull this crap when you're not doing it. Witnessed by the FACT that you never have me say one word to or about you until you get in my face. Get over your big bad self, bruiser. No amount of creative wordplay on your part is actually going to change reality. Why start now? Do the math. What the hell do you think you're doing besides bumping this up? Adding your intellectual content? Or telling me again how much you "respect me" after what you've just said a few posts above? If you can't stay out of this thread, then don't complain about how a whole group of losers is keeping it going and trying to make it look like I am. Go ahead...tell me again how much respect you have for me and bounce it up again, then complain about it. I'm not going to bother trying to elaborate on the subject of you twisting around who's a liar here, Tank. I have a great example right here, but you've already skirted over it. In the following post, you listed a bunch of crap, I showed you where you were lying, and you just glossed over it. So...it shows that you are not worth responding to when you pile lie upon lie, ignoring the truth when it's quite obvious. We were going in circles before this, Tank, but it's pointless in continuing to go in the same circles once it's been proven that you're not only a liar, but that you won't admit it when it's been pointed out clearly in a finite manner to you. Further, when you say "no one cares who's lying," you show how much credence you give to the truth; absolutely none. So...I lost any "interest" I ever had in responding to you when I see that not only are you going to do anything besides bounce this thread up, you're going to complain when I do, and you're going to complain when I don't. Interesting. And "my friend" is one of them!? Doesn't take much. That was a direct quote from you. You referred to me as "my friend." See..right there..just up above..Oh, never mind...it's not funny if you have to explain it, is it? I'm glad that you have me all figgered out, Tank. You're someone else in this thread that surprises me with their in depth training in psychology. Now...since you were so fascinated with the math, now do some division, and follow it with some association. Too complicated for you? Ok...let's try this. Count the number of people on that list who I have responded to. Now divide my number of post by that number. Get it? Prob'ly not. That's ok...like I said earlier, you're bitching if I don't respond to you, just like Crusty. Then, you even started yet another thread about this one! It's almost funny the way you drive around in circles! I know it gets rough trying to do that whole "think" thing, smokey, but you must have missed the memo about not everybody having that problem...I'll also admit to being just a tad confused here...in your mind are you like...the leader of my minions? Oh, by the way..I was posting in the old forum back when there was a wolverine running loose...and a "Cat." I guess you wouldn't know that because...you weren't around! Keep trying to remind how how I take this internet stuff so personal, so I remember that you're only "fooling around." I'm curious why you seem to adopt a different personality when you are only dealing with me, as opposed to being in the midst of my minions....but..I'm not too curious. Actually, I think you hit your thumb with it, while my point went flyin' right over your pointy little hay-ed! Ok..incoming coherent thoughts, open the gates! I was (obviously) referring to the fact that I've been posting in that forum for three iterations of it, and that you apparently weren't there to see this, or you wouldn't have said "It's a great way to make friends on a new forum. " Get it? Or you need some more splainin', Lucy? You know...oh nevermind, you'll think you're worth responding to. I saw you whining about me not paying any attention to you, and now I'm stalking you. Oh wait..you're really calling yourself a "semi-famous internet personaly?" Always been my life's ambition to not disappoint you, oh prophetic one! Borrow that thinking cap again! Get ready to regurgitate my phrases back at me! Wheeeee! Hey...don't you have a whole "that dadgum dg" forum that you're moderating at, courtesy the leader of the minions? I'm so happy for you! Congratulations! Something worthy of your intellectual prowess. You're brilliance is only exceeded by your erroneously jumped conclusions! Despite Smokey's paranoic ramblings, I haven't been on any of his forums since he banned me from his short lived "no holds barred" forum. Someone did, however, provide a link that will only get you as far as is necessary for me to make the above observations without registering. D'oh! And "Too bad the same can't be said about you concerning me, huh?" sounds like some unsubstantiated, untrue delusional ramblings to me. Well...I'm off...nice to see you doing a great job of bouncing this thread up and up and up! Don't trip and fall from your lofty heights! That has got to be one of the stupidest things you've ever said. Here...allow me to quote...oh LOOK, it's YOU! What....a....brainiac! Hahahahaha! Right. Thanks for the exceedingly polite invitation, Smokey. I can see more than I need to from the front page. You don't even need me there to feed your fascination with me. Have fun with it! Don't bar them holds! Hahaha! I'll watch "crefully," all right..while you dodge and dance again because you have not choice....I'm not going to bother asking you what the hell you're referring to, because that'd make you try to do that "think" thang...and I just hate to see you with that constipated look on your face... dance..dance..dance.. Actually, that's the perception of someone with a very limited and short range sense of humor...you. See, that's been a long standing source of your befuddlement. If someone doesn't share your little hate filled potty "humor", then you figure they don't have any sense of humor. And that is pathetic. minions minions minions. I'll bet your minions agree completely with you, though! That's what they refer to as "obvious," if you ever need an example. So...what brings you around? Oh....hahaha...you smelled the odd humor and thought you'd contribute your obsessive compulsive ranting to it? Good for you! I admire your practiced approach at this! Tank didn't "make a mistake." He felt like he'd make a comment about me "spying" on smokey's "that dadgum dg" forum, and I said that I hadn't registered. He pulled a "rolleyes" on me, and I nailed him on it. Oh wait...none of that matters to you; you just want to throw some stank on the stank! Silly me! By the way...I confirmed what I said to you in reply to your rantings about whatever it was you wouldn't say. You're full of shit. Hahahaha! There was no "copying of pm's". Given the scenario, I did it with the utmost courtesy and respect. Let's see if you care to dispute it..It will not be possible, because your whole scenario was played out with one of your other selves. I already know the answer, but I don't mind showing that you don't even care to find out. Rant on, man! Rant on! Wheee! Next you'll trot out the old "gun" thing that Tank keeps propagating....good old internet bullshit! Gotta love the old chestnuts! Ooh, ooh! I know, I know..drag out the ambulance thing...that never grows old! Oh..did you mean "self-aggrandizement?" Just curious? Hey look! We bloated that word up to be a real one! COOL! I'd better quit while I'm behind. You're just too witty, pretty, and smart for me. I think them thar four syllable words you're picking up are making me nervous. "rationalize." Wow. And putting "quite" in front of "disturbing." Sheer artistic genius! Time and time again with the help of factual deviosity you've managed to bluster your way through and keep plugging away, both claiming you're going to get the last word and how much it bothers you that you think I feel like I need to get the last word. Wow! I can't remember if I'm the handle or the spout! Let me clue you in ..when you say "you can't sink any farther," and you keep repeating it, when there's really not much new being said...that's what is called a "cliché." You really need to get some new material. This "you can't sink any farther," "I'm gonna get the last word in" schtick is boringly repetitive. I "get it" completely, Tank. You've got nothing going on except your blustering bravado. If you say "I will win" because you'll be the last one posting, then good on ya'! You've been proven to be a thick-headed, dull witted liar, so you keep on a' winnin'! This is so dad-gum heartfelt, it just makes me...puke. Yes, I realize it hurts your head to read more than a couple of words. "To tell the truth.." Again, why start now. You don't even know ..what? Just check this very thread, and you'll see way back on page one who started bs'ing who, Tank. And that's exactly the kind of whiney-ass crap I've got from you for several years now. Just pop up out of nowhere and make some snide remark, then wipe your nose and start bitching about how I "have a chip on (my) shoulder." You are just so thickheaded and belligerent! You pop shit off at me, then seriously think that by acting like I'm on your ass that you can change reality? It ain't working, Tank. You're pitiful attempt at making it look like I'm the one instigating this crap that you're putting out is very transparent. Ignoring your blatant admission that you "don't even know for sure" , and "giving you" that if you're drunk or whatever when you pull the worst of your bullshit that you might not remember, even in this very thread you are the one who instigated any conflict. And this whole "Please tell me that's not all this is for you man...come on" schtick. Not only are you inventing this whole "last word" scenario as a method of trying gloss over the fact that you've been proven to be an abusive liar many times in this thread, but you are the one who also comes up with the whole you're not going to get the last word balogney. Like...let's just have you keep piling crap on crap and keep deflecting the FACT that YOU are the one instigated this stuff, and it's extremely telling and typical that you are still trying to make it look otherwise. Persistence isn't going to alter reality, Tank. Keep trying for your sympathy votes, but reality isn't changing. Roll your eyes after you completely misinterpret what I said. You are incorrect..again. I did not say that I "did it" in a polite way. I said that I confirmed that you were full of shit..in a polite and respectful way. You've got the reading part down..now try the "comprehension" part. After you came onto this thread with a specific mission, and then finally revealed a bogus neurotic "reason" for nipping at my heels, why do you say that I am guilty of "character assassination? Again...you didn't read and comprehend what I very clearly said. Thanks for making it easy. Wow...so it took you all this time to finally come clean with what your perceived problem is, then you have the balls to think it's weird that I try to confirm whatever you won't even say? I just got through saying that I "politely and respectfully" put an enquiry in to confirm what I already knew...that there was never any mention of you, much less any "forwarding of pm's." It was hogwash on your part. Don't act like it was "low" of me to confirm that you were completely demented and WRONG on this lowly accusation of yours. This is exceptionally...weird of you. I've completely denied what you said. I've confirmed that it was a complete fabrication of your mind. This is all possible because it would have been a recent event, had it occured. It didn't occur. Should be the end of the subject. Now...the question is not "how low will you go dirtbag?" The question is "will you insult and degrade the person again that you made this wild claim about? I hope you can pretend to have the character to not do so. Hell, I feel "guilty" that I even bothered to confirm what I already knew...but it was definitely confirmed concretely. Luckily, it was an easy and innocuous thing to do, unlike many "confirmations" in this thread. You've just got to be right on this one! It sounds so...logical. I mean it's not like you've been grinding your axe away at me, is it!? Can't have it both ways, Uv. You're no "peacemonger." You congregated here to simply pile on, and you've been doing a dang good job of it! "Just a group of people who want it to stop." Hahahahahahahahahahaha! And..the whole "conspiracy" thing? Where is that coming from? Why not admit that when you see this crap, you're attracted to it like a fly? Safety in numbers, and all. Pack of dogs. That's not a conspiracy, that's just flies on shit. You ever get your other issue straight? Didn't think you'd want to. You really shouldn't be confused over this, Crusty. You like what you like. Yeah, the whole "foot up his ass" thing should have just swept me off my feet! Originally posted by Crustycabs I just wanna slide my "virtual foot" up DG's ass as far as I can and make him squirm. It's .... enjoyable. You started to "pay attention" as far back as I can remember, smokey. And you've been two-faced about your "attention" ever since. Aren't things busy enough at your "no holds barred, get that dad-gum daddysguitar" forum? I mean..you guys can all "hang" there, cantcha'!? And...no matter how many of "you" accuse me of having joined your forum, with your limited membership, I think you'd be able to prove otherwise. But..of course you'd have to be interested in showing bullshit for what it is, and we know how that goes for you. Seriously, this whole "daddysgoiter" as a moderator at your forums...you don't think your fascination with me is a bit...extreme? Whatever. Consider the source, and all. I've now been put in my place by the master. "pussy boy." Attitude and context. You've been smearing bullshit all over the internet at any forum that you haven't been kicked out of, Crusty. I got tired of it here, and caught some of your shit and flung it back. My mistake. I forgot that flinging "poo" isn't an occasional thing for you, and that you actually enjoy it. that whole "never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level and win through experience" thing. Yep...you're "winning," all right! What is my "case" that interests you so much? If you want to continue to ignore the fact that there's a few guys out of many hundreds who have an axe to grind with me for reasons that should be obvious, and want to be one more of them, then I can't stop you. Don't make it look like I antagonized you into "siding" with "them." You know very well the fascination with a "select few" with congregating for the purpose of piling bullshit on me. You should know better than most, seriously. Occasionally it almost appears as though you know how to use context in an honest manner, but then the whole "pack of dogs" thing gets you confused, and you don't want to make an independent stand on your own, using your own personal judgement. Go with the flow, stratosteve, if it means that you want to demonstrate that you've been "fairminded" but that I just made you see the light that a pack of mongrels are shining. Don't be concerned about the fleas. After all, it gets lonely when your buddies see you doing that whole "independent thinking" thing. You know about context, just deal with it in the manner that you're comfortable with, I guess. Oh the "daddysgoiter" spot? I'm honored. I'm sure that it would be a great delight, considering the current and past membership list. It just wouldn't be my great delight. I don't always see or smell "poo" before I step in it, but I think in this case.... Ignore the obvious again. Pack of dogs, blah blah blah. So...your other issue what..vaporized? Interesting! You go with that! "end it." Howzat? "smart guy." Since I'm not the one instigating it, what's your new theory here to "end it?" Get hounded off of the internet by a pack of losers? Yeah..that's it! I knew there'd be a flash of brilliance somewhere! After you forgot about your "other issue," I just didn't think it would be from you! Wowzers! ! "Floaters." Trial closes. You throw stuff out there to see if it floats, then just move on when you're actually proven to be..incorrect. But..we've been over that. When you presented an itemized list of bs, and I repeatedly and concisely showed where you were either lying or "wrong," you just glossed over it...did I say "repeatedly?" So...here's your latest. BWB. I have not now nor have I ever had any problem with BWB. He's a great singer, who was kind of cheated out of playing guitar as much as he'd like because of physical reasons, but he keeps on keepin' on. He's got a gift, and a good attitude behind it. I've never heard him belittling me for any reason either. Far as I know neither of us have an axe to grind with the other. So..you're just going to float this "trial close" out there and see if it goes under or not, and move on if it doesn't. How about stopping and just looking at what you're doing here with that kind of statement, instead of continuing on down your lying way? And then floating "How long....blah blah blah" out, like you're going to get any takers besides your buddies in war...get a grip. I hardly think that anyone besides you and a few other "floaters" are capable of putting the least bit of creedence behind that one. A tech note for you, Tank. Not everybody has their preferences set for the same number of posts per page. That would be why I counted five posts from you on the first page. Like most any other thing you've trotted out, that's neither here nor there, but easy to correct. Like...you saying that you had saved pm's from me gloating about how I had deleted your "music posts," then brought out...nothing. Not important in the overall scheme of things, but just part of a pattern of floating stuff out there, being proven wrong, and then ignoring any future mention of it. Like you saying that I'm always badmouthing Open Jam and everyone who posts here, but then not responding when I ask you to give me an example...float it out there and see if it sinks or not, and ignore it if someone sees it for what it is. Oh...and weren't you gonna get stratcat to back you up on some nimrod piece of crap? I understand that you've now turned this into a "you're not gonna get the last word" thread, Tank, but not too many of your words have any value behind them. You already know who your allies are in this thread and in your "pack of dogs" hunting mode, Tank...you'd do well to stick with them instead of trying to allude to stratcat and BWB and anyone else you can drum up as potential candidates. But then again..you can drag this thread out endlessly by floating crap out and seeing if anyone notices....So now you're actually begging to get your Tank in motion again, huh? What a shallow attempt at keeping this going. You might want to rephrase whatever you were trying to say ...oops, I just quoted you! Too late! "He thinks that not replying is as good as a "I'm sorry." That is...just plain weird. Not funny, not even "mysterious." First off..let's ask who should be in a better position to state what I "think," you or ...me? Ok...given that it should be obvious that I just might be in a better position than you, I'm going to state flat out that I am not sorry about anything I've said to or about you. Don't be confused about this issue again, and don't bother trying to "think" for me when you can't even do a half-assed job of "thinking" for yourself. Is that all too complicated for you? Are you really so disappointed that I have much betterthings to be doing than arguing with someone with such diminished mental capacity that tries to compensate for that with a blustery bravado? After bitching and bitching and bitching about you being such a strong man that you were going to "get the last word in" after bitching and bitching and bitching that you somehow thought that was my trait, you are silly enough to make these statements? You act as though me having a healthy memory is NOT a good thing, and that since I finally responded to your stupid little jabs, you need to whine on and on and on about it, never once admitting that I've merely responded to you after your pot shots. You've admitted to instigating dog pack hunts of me since years ago in this very thread, but are still trying to make it look like I'm "after you." You've made the most abusive kinds of comments that a father can hear, and then apparently seem proud of the fact that you weren't banned because of it. Brain cells are a precious commodity, Tank. You may or may not ever realize how you've wasted the few you were born with, but you keep on demonstrating for us, ya' hear? Sorry if I'm not paying enough attention to you, but it seems like you're doing a damn fine job of handling the gang without me. Don't think too hard about whether you should bitch if I post, and bitch if I don't post on this thread..I hate to see you in such pain. Banal. We got it the first time. Is this going to be your whole schtick? Good to see you not straining that...uh...brain. Tank. The sum of the impact of my words are equal to the amount of thinking you've indicated you're capable of. Zero. And true to form, this has to be pointed out to you. Words are too complicated for you, and now you're indicating that apparently pictures are, also. My apologies for causing you to mimic thinking. Back to your schtick, now. What an interesting contradiction in terms;"I don't know you at all," and"everywhere you go." Now...I just checked my itinerary, and sure enough, we both remember my life the same: you don't know me at all! Therefore, I'm curious how the second part fits in; the part where your are under the impression that wherever I go, there seems to be a wake of disagreement. No big deal, just pointing out that not only do you have no idea what you're talking about, you don't mind displaying your ignorance. Carry on. I thought you remembered to bring your giant colored letters when you came to play! Did you get confused about this being the internet and all, and think you had to pick them up to reuse them? I'd have thought that you'd have been able to get a much larger crowd of minions by now, Crusty! What's with that? "Mayflower" and all? Guess I missed that one. Oh that's right, it was only in your head! Thanks for sharing. I'll bet your inbox is just full of laudatory prose from folks who wouldn't post here, but wanted to praise you personally for your outstanding verve and big colored letters! uh...huh! I believe that there's a firmness count going on with a live update....Tank will hook you up with the latest by his buddy! You slay me with your blatant hypocrisy, Crusty. You can't take a little slapping back after you've been posting crap about me all over the internet? I keep it on one thread and you whine like a fucking stuck pig. Not only do you "think" you've got this fantastic sense of humor, if no one else "gets" you, you turn into a screaming weenie. Grow the fuck up. "fitting in?" Well, you're definitely missing the landing strip here. I can't imagine once in this entire thread where I've been concerned about "fitting in" with you or any of the other pack o' dogs running in it. You're....weird..to even think that. Just...weird. See #2 above. Did you get fried last night or something? You've just struck out, Crusty. That's three strikes in a row. You should "attempt" something new; you're not too good at this whole thinking and typing thing. Just good enough to make me occasionally scratch my head and ask you what the fuck you're talking about...but really only good enough to usually make me ignore you. It is amusing to see you get all ...flustered and stuff when you see a couple of words headed at you. Thanks ever so much for your concern about my horizons, I guess. They seem to be just fine without your concern, however. You could like..hang onto your concerns and I'd be ok, in case that's a big deal for you to share them and all. I hear your pitiful cries for help, and the answer is there, Smokey. That's got to be one of the most contradictory and idiotic things I've heard from you, and I've heard a LOT of flip flop crap from you over the years. First, here's an idea. Quit the bullshit about pretending that you "like" me in your private correspondence, then jump on the internet and post this crap about me when you're running with your "dawgs." Just stop it. I don't care for the bs. Stick with this persona, and no more crap about sawdust and solder. Your meager attempts at befriending me off of internet forums, only to nip at my heals when you're around Crusty, for example, just make me want to puke. Your math sucks. I'm not interested pointing it out to the likes of you, but anyone who's been on this forum knows that I spend hardly ANY time responding to bullshit, and most of my time answering questions about guitars and music. And this, in a reactive manner. In other words someone asks a question about guitars. I give them an answer, if I happen to know it. If one were to only look at this thread, there might be some confusion, because I got tired of ignoring all the crap by a "very select few" and decided to throw it back. Whatever. Despite Crusty's attempts at claiming otherwise, my presence in this thread is not my entry in a popularity contest, or an attempt to "fit in." Did I mention that you suck at math? Keep having fun with your buddies. Looks like you must not have suckered them in at your "no holds barred dadgum that dg" forum. Is this like your enlistment campaign? Good on ya'! You're absolutely welcome! Such an honest observation on your part is quite easy to answer, and certainly deserves an honest reply! So, do you have any other qualifications or explanations about not really meaning what you say before I am allowed to respond to you? Guess I'll just go with the whole "face value" thing until you tell me otherwise. Here's the thing. You say "I have seen a lot of people really not liking you." But, you also say " I don't know you at all." So, by all appearances you are making your in depth analysis of me judging by this thread. Again, I've got nothing to go on but what you have said, so allow me to jump right to this conclusion and correct me all you want. So..if you're serious about your prior post making sense, then you can enter those considerations into your equation and go from there. If you're judging me from the crowd I've drawn in this thread, then you're exercising poor judgement, but that's certainly your prerogative. As I've said elsewhere, I'm not attracting my "normal crowd." Which is a joke, because you don't get a "crowd" answering questions on an internet music forum. This is kind of the "shit flickers" crowd at this little gathering. Ok, Sydfan, a couple of further observations, then. You have no problems with Tank and Crusty, and consider them "good guys." Fine. Not my perspective, and you might be able to understand that, even just from this thread, which you have "sort of" said is where you're getting your perspective from. And..it's all about perspective and context, right? Now, if you had the same experience with Tank and Crusty that I have had, I can pretty much assure you that your perspective would be different. Given that this thread is nothing more than a pack of dogs pissing on me and laughing with each other, why on earth would you think, even in a "misguided and misleading" way, that any judgement you're making about my personal character should be made in the context of me responding to this group? I'm not being sarcastic with you at all when I say this: I think you've demonstrated that you are capable of independent thinking, so why bother opening the door like you did when you're perfectly capable of thinking for yourself instead of in harmony with a bunch of guys with an ax to grind? I mean, if you're wanting to simply solidify yourself as a "that dadgum dg" guy, then that's fine, and these guys will lap it up. If you're not wanting to continue using a shallow measuring stick like this, then so be it. I wouldn't be overly concerned about kudos from Tank and Crusty, but to each their own. Oh...humor. Irony, and all that. Like the laugh I get thinking of you forming your opinions based on me from my interactions with a couple of guys like Tank and Crusty! I've been told that watching someone slip and bust their ass on a banana peel would not be funny if it didn't hurt.So...I guess that everyone has their own "reality," so there ya' go! Obsession is a strange bedfellow; ask Tank and Crusty for some more details! Tank will even hook ya' right up with a guy who is harvesting my every word, and then posting in another internet "music" forum, and then Tank links back to it! OOOOH! It's like...the concept of infinity...for grade schoolers. But..if you like humor... One hell of a rawkin' cut 'n paster! I'm imagining it won't be long before him and Chris figure out a program to integrate my words with some drums and take over the world, huh!? Yeah...go with the flow..don't do anything original now, ya' hear? Seriously..uh..I guess I mean, "humorously," you're actin' like you just had an idea. Is that how you get all your ideas? Reminds me of the boss who introduces his son to the creative head of marketing, and says "meet my son, he'll be taking credit for all of your ideas from now on." Have fun at opening night ceremonies! Coffee and Biscotti, perhaps? Nope. Your fantasy, bubba'! Interesting to see how your mind works, though! Fascinating! Sucks to be you, huh!? Hey, you too, sydfan! I'm glad to hear that Crusty and Tank haven't been potty mouthing you and chasing you all over the internet with bullshit. It is very tiring. I took a breather and decided to fling some of it back their way. Silly me! Always nice to see you "fit in" with a "suck up" move to Crusty! Truly a match made in....well...uh...some cesspool. No problem. I made a mistake lumping you and Crusty into the same category with that remark. While I've seen you only reference another website repeatedly as a cut and paste thing, besides snide comments from you on this and other forums on this site, I haven't seen you doing what Crusty has been doing. I don't need to "crawl up on that cross," Tank. In terms of multiple website shit-flinging, you don't hold a candle to Crusty. Crusty is the one getting his jollies off all over the web, not you. Ever since you started your fascination with me years ago, it's been mostly on this website. Blow some of that snot out of your brain, would you? Geez....Look at what he ASKED me. I said "NO." So that would make it HIS fantasy, not mine. Get it? Question. Answer. Observation. Pretty straightforward, if you desire to follow the train of thought. If you don't choose to exercise your brain, I can't be held responsible.What's so "funny" here is that unless someone is "guessing" correctly, whatever the moniker of the day you're using is simply one amongst..what, dozens? So, you're happy with the moniker you're posting under at this moment, and saying that I have an identity problem? Hahahahaha! ok..well..back to your little worlds.....all of them...Mere minutes, I assure you. Besides, you need to be able to bitch about when I do post, and then when I don't post, don't you? I'm so fulfilled with your ongoing fascination with me. The wife and kiddie are being assisted with their massive quantities of homework; thanks for your personal interest. Thus, the computer's being sat at by..me! Apparently unlike yourself, I can do several things at once. I even learned how to type really fast in high school. But..I must leave some mysteries for you to uncover in your ongoing fascination with me. Good luck with that! I'm just so....amazed at how important my crotch is to you! One day you're saying I have a pussy, then another that I have a limp dick, then another that you think I'm not getting laid! Man! Does the wifey know about your fascination with my crotch? You sure get confused easily. And...who's Cathy? Regardless, how'd you get distracted from my crotch so easily? Come on, Tank..I thought for a second you were going to distance yourself from Crusty's little perversions and only go for your own. Oh well..safety in numbers and all that. By the way...that barely even qualifies as "lame." If you're going to call me gay or something, find some clever or straightforward way to do it...don't just try to take Crusty's bs and...uh...bend it around to your liking. Nope. Just don't know what you're talking about is all. Am I being thick here...or are you? If I'm sidestepping to not land in one of your piles of bullshit, excu-u-u-u-u-se me! You've got your own agenda and view of the world as it applies to your exceptional piles, so you can blather all over the internet all you want, but I'm not buying into it. Seems like you're fixated on making it look like I'm the one with the "last word" problem, Tank...and you're making it easy to prove otherwise. Now, for sheer repetition of the phrase "last word," you win the redundancy award, ok? But no matter how many times you repeat it, you're the only one with a problem about having the "last word." So...Crusty is fascinated with my crotch, and you're fascinated with "the last word." I think I get it. Well...ok, there you go talking in circles again. Whatever. Here..it does seem like you're being thickheaded and trying to make it look like you're being "tricky." So...to be literal here, you would be saying that because you have a compulsion to "get in the last word" that you'll be looking forward to a 2000 post thread. And, also to be literal..it appears as though you have some strong doubts about your manhood, from your above statements. Carry on. How on earth I "proved your point" for you is beyond me. I proved that you were a liar again is all. How silly of you. This isn't the first time in this thread that I've provided you with a direct quote from you that directly contradicts what you say...and you try to make it look like you "meant it that way." just...totally weird. whatever. have fun with it. By the way, if you're trying to make it look like lying in circles is your way of trolling, well...good for you. Nener nener nener and all. Dont forget to stick your thumbs in your ears and wiggle your fingers, and dance about. It's beyond sad if that's the best you can come up with as an excuse when you're confronted with your own duplicity. Quick, before it looks like you're having to do that "think" thing. Go ahead and explain how smart you are. Time's a' wasting! Punch line, punch line..waiting on a punch line. waiting on a punch line....So..what you're really saying is that you've got nothing here. You got caught in print lying your ass off, tried to make it look like you "meant it that way," then tried to make it look like only you are ever so smart enough to "figure it all out," and now you're saying...you got nothing. Ok...I knew that before the thread started. You bore me. Any grade school kid would come up with better "told you so's" and "nener nener nener's" than you're doing here, trying to save face now for whatever reason. The mirror thing? geez.... I'm assuming you're talking to me. Show me where I said that Tank was going after my family. I haven't said one word in private or in public about what Tank did say anywhere on this thread, only that I knew what he said, and that as a father it was unforgivable language. Now start your searching and show me where I said anything else, without being overly literal. Quote all you want; I haven't edited anything. In fact, you're missing any point that my appearance in this thread after my initial post ever had. Not surprising, since you really are only interested in grinding your personal axe, which is completely obvious. I haven't even looked at this thread in three days, and your post was the first thing that I noticed. I know exactly what I did and did not say about Tank. I know exactly what Tank did say that I remember. And, I also know that it wasn't pursued in an administrive manner at the time. Therefore, I also know that there's no point in pursuing it now, and haven't been doing so..in this thread or any where else. I've said that I'm tired of not responding to Tank's jabs, more than anything I've said. Tank has admitted to getting together with his cronies and nipping at my heels, and you are absolutely not only not worth the energy for me to become engaged in this thread againand do quotes to show you, but you don't have the character to stay the hell out of something that has nothing to do with you. Pretty sure Tank and I have grown weary with butting our heads, and he just might be happy getting in "the last word" again, which I thought I had given him. Talk about a high horse! Get a grip. "Where are your friends?" What the hell is wrong with you? Are you writing this stuff without even bothering to read what came before? I've said numerous times that I'm not trying to win a popularity contest here, and only expect people who have axes to grind with me to populate this thread. Do you think that I'm misrepresenting something when I say that? I just don't know how much clearer I could state it. I am not looking for friends in this thread. Read and comprehend. Heed your own words and you might stand a chance of not tripping over them again: "Too hard to handle? It is the truth. Get off of your high horse already. " I haven't been on this thread for three days. Really. You should stay out of stuff that's none of your business while trying to make it look like it is. Unless you want to look thickheaded. Now we have to have Tank have the last word again. Smooth move, Ex Lax. What the hell are you talking about? Talk about a high horse! Yeah, I'm the ruin of Open Jam. Let's hear that be your new mighty crusade. Quit bringing your personal axe here and making it look like you give a damn about anything but being a jackass to me, and dragging whoever you need to into your pissing contest. "Live with it?" What a jackass, Uv. "If you really blah blah blah." I never said one word about "really blah blah blah." I said I didn't like Tank taking pot shots at me and that Crusty is posting bullshit about me at every website I've seen him post at. Get that through your thick head and quit trying to make it look like I said anything else. I'm doing fine about "living with it." Now..getting back to your moral crusade; you really might get somewhere with that whole "dg is the ruin of open jam" thing you're trying for. If nothing else, you can kick start this thread up all over again! Did you sign up yet at Smokey's "that dang dg" club? How about Crusty's place? I can think of a couple others where a few pissed off internet posters congregate and you might be able to be a real "that dang dg" supporter. Hell, you might be able to run for president with your campaign. You'd get about a half dozen votes, and I can tell you who they'd be, but nothing's stopping you! Go for it, GI Jane! Help! I'm drowning in pond scum. Somebody talking to you? Or...How curious, indeed! Maybe..mysterious, and "deep," like you!? Feel better now that you've had some attention paid to you? Guess I need to make sure that everyone who gets a little snip or a snipe in gets their due, or their little feelers will get hurt! Danged if you do, danged if you don't! Watch where you step. Whatever you do, make sure and edit all the other stuff you were talking about, then. Find a woman yet? Quoting yourself now, Crotchy? Still confused on that, arencha'! You're going to go with the whole "I don't know what you're talking about, so I'll ask for "proof" crap. So...exactly what is it that you think I'm accusing you of, Tank? Be specific, because I'd like to hear what it is. You're little linking to cut and paste links back to this thread is ...getting a little trite, don't you think? Oops...there I go again, using "you" and "think" in the same sentence. So sorry. You drunk again, or does your mind really exist on this plane? Wow, these overt acts of friendship by my new buddy's Tank and Crotch are just overwhelming! I wonder if you guy's would like to try my family's barbeque sauce out, too!? I mean...you'd tell me if it was too spicy, wouldn't you? So...you're seriously thinking that I wanted you to be my buddy!? Bwahahahahaha! Go post some more crap about me on a bunch of forums, Crotchy; at least you're good at that! So...you're in contact with Brett, and he's been telling you this, huh? hahahaha! SURE you are! Your really are a loser, Tank. "If you even really have one, that is." You're....really, really bent. So, you going to ask me to post pictures of me and my daughter, next? What a manly man you are. I'm so very grateful for your newfound concern for her. I'm under the distinct impression that you don't know my friends. How strange that you should make such a statement. I think the only people you choose to associate with me are people who have an axe to grind. People who share a couple of personality traits with you. Abusiveness. Self Righteousness. Blustery Bravado. But...these are not my friends. Perhaps the concept of friendship is something you could use some work on. I know that someone else you've just quoted has said that he doesn't have friends, so maybe...well...just a fleeting thought. So, you're actually good buddies with Brett, and I don't have a daughter. Wow. You're really, really good at this. I'm just imagining that there's some very creative interpretations going on here. Good to see you trying to exercise that peabrain. My observations have been that funky thinks things through just fine, and has no problem taking care of business. If he thought someone was pulling wool over his eyes, it'd be taken care of immediately. Oh...but you should know that. Yeah, Hey, I never asked you to admit anything, did I? I know exactly where I stand, and haven't changed my thinking one iota. I certainly wouldn't invent something like what you said. And you certainly do get on here when you're drunk or whacked out and post angry, abusive bullshit. I don't care if you got caught at it, or if you even remember it. None of that matters. I'd be an idiot and a terrible father if I didn't permanently store your mindset in my brain. Perhaps one day you'll understand that; perhaps not. I don't care. Keep protesting about it, though. Why don't you try and put a spin on your whole "hunt dg with my dawgs" statement and see how you can look all righteous there, too? Hey..that just says it all right there! Now I know what the problem is! Thanks for pointing it out, Crotchy! The rust on your sense of irony is getting thick. Well, certainly everyone who wants to agree with you. I think the world is much bigger than a small handful of disgruntled internet personalities, Crotchy. We've been over this ad nauseum. "Got a link?" Duh-oh! That would be this thread. What is it with dull witted people? Oh...that's right. Never mind, Tank. Just keep never minding. Doesn't say anything besides you'll try anything to wiggle out of facing reality, Tank. No chance you got drunk and said something abusive and get real personal about it, is there!? No chance that it really has nothing to do with me being tired about you taking shots at me when I post and flinging some of your shit back at you, is there? Keep ignoring how simple this really is, Tank. You're not only lazy, you're just plain tardy on the uptake. Besides, you revel in this crap, Crotchy. Say something new here, Tank. Don't just keep being so stupid. Don't just keep posting links to links to links back to cut and paste words from here. Do something with that brain of yours besides pollute it with booze. You go look for your own stupid words about hunting me with you dawgs. And don't look for those "exact" words, as you put it. Use your brain. Just like another startling example I can think of when you said something stupid and then strutted around bitching about how deranged I am because I didn't have you banned. Take your time. I'm in no hurry. Unless you deleted it, you should be able to find it real easy. I'm tired of you thinking you're gonna "call the shots" about "proving" something. "Play a clip." Blah blah blah. "You deleted me playing my clips!" Blah blah blah.Go...hurry on now...go find where you can either reference your dawg hunting or delete it! Then, complain that if this were true, I would have had you banned. Either way, you're a real winner!come on, Tank...show me the "lies about your daughter being raped." Man...you just keep hoping that when you push a button, the channel is going to be changed, don't you? You've gone from saying you have no idea what I'm talking about, to saying that I'm gay, to saying that you don't think I have a daughter, to saying that I said something about her being raped!? Ok..just trying to track with you here. Why, I don't know. I can see that even though you're aware of the abusive duplicitous nature of Tank, that it never occured to you that perhaps he might be denying what he said about my daughter one drunken night. Class move, Oakey. After a few or a couple of days away from this thread, it's hilarious to see how reading only the last couple of posts on it makes me get suckered in. Ridiculous moment of weakness. By-yee! Shutting the fuck up is definitely a piece of advice you should have followed when I gave it to you, Tank. You trying to twist what you said into a fantasy of mine is just another great example of how your mind works. You'd do well to realize that I'm not the one who brought it up in this thread, also. I simply said that I'm sick of you taking potshots at me, and it grew from there. Looks to me like you have a little guilt you're trying to find a way to work off. Getting drunk and posting crap on an internet forum hasn't done well by you, has it? As I said, I don't need your "heart to go out" to my daughter; you've already said enough. The farther your "heart" is from my daughter, the better. Again, I'm not the one who brought it up, am I? And..as I have repeatedly pointed out, this would not be something that I need to "prove" to anybody. This is between Tank and me. Period. Now, how it got turned from me saying that I didn't like having Tank taking potshots at me into him admitting that he and his buddies enjoy pack hunting me, I don't care, but it's rather cool that he opened his mouth and admitted it, accidentally or not. I really don't give a rat's ass about some comment that Tank made when he was drunk being "proven" somehow, since it's a highly moot point anyway, and only an example that someone else brought up. I'm not the one who brought it up, and I really consider it a lame attempt at changing the subject, although it's been highly effective. It is one further example of Tank's seeming fascination with me, and a good one, so...so be it. If you're looking for a FACT, the fact is that whatever you have to say on the subject, Oakland, is meaningless. Listen..now I'm apparently not being clear. You're still assuming that in reference to any statement that someone else brought up that I care about what anyone besides myself and Tank thinks. I DO NOT. So, any further consideration of someone else's viewpoints is meaningless and moot. I'm saying that only Tank and I were there, and that he was drunk. And...I don't care about supporting my "position" to anyone else. Essentially..I was my own eye witness, and as a father I don't care about "proving" anything to anyone else. You may or may not understand this, but there it is. Again, how this keeps coming up is curious, because I am not the one bringing it up. I don't know how to make it any plainer that I don't care about what you or anyone else has to say on the subject, and I'm not the one continuing to bring it up. With whatever explanation was given, I don't see how "A nice 'daddysguitaring' " could be taken differently on first glance. It all boils down to this; I never brought up any allegations of an old post by Tank in this thread. I simply started it by saying I didn't like him hounding me down. He admitted to doing that, and in no uncertain terms, although he still seems amusingly confused about it. Someone somewhere in this thread brought up his drunken post made one night. He and others continue to dwell on this as though I was the one who brought it up. This is all just typical channel-changing bs and I don't want to create time for it. There's been enough plain bs and attempts to show where it was bs with absolutely no change in anybody's mindset. How me saying I didn't like idiotic potshots being taken at me turned into me needing to prove how Tank got drunk and made an abusive, hateful post about my daughter is beyond me. It's not worth dignifying. That simple. That is why I never once brought it up. I don't like "Tank" and "my daughter" being part of any conversation. If I appear to bristle when I see "nice 'daddysguitaring'", it would be because the whole issue of Tank and "what he said" is something I could live the rest of my life never having to hear or see again. Tank. You've admitted that you have a hard on for me, and have for years, in this very thread. I think everything after that should be seen for what it is. You simply enjoy doggin' me down. I still don't see what fascinates you about me..I'm a pretty boring person. But...you've been doing this for years now. Let's be clear one more time. The only time you hear from me is AFTER you decide to inititate some bullshit. Don't try to confuse the issue here. You are the attack dawg, bubba, not me. I can't think of one time in any other forum that I've cheapened it by mentioning your name; don't flatter yourself. It's very strange how you say "my sick fantasies" about my daughter, as if you know what you're talking about. What does make you think you know what you're talking about? Gee..you think it could be that you're just trying to get my goat, thinking that's a good way to do it? How's that whole "woman thing" going, Tank? Any of them agree with your conception of romance yet? Didn't think so. I thought it was juvenile when my words were "important" enough to someone to copy and paste them on another forum. I reallylaughed when you started linking to them, like it was real mark of your intelligence that you'd learned how to link or something, and thought that perhaps it would endear you to your buddies that you'd recently pissed off. But no, you've got to use the supreme act of idiocy and literally paste everything I've said out of context, as though you've proven something. I've seen you recently make another "seven year old girl" reference, Tank, in another thread. I'm mentioning this only because you seem to want to pursue your anger over what you continually bring up about a several years old reference that you made. When you're angry, you just let it fly, don't you? Do you need "proof" of what I've just said? Do a search then, and then cut and paste it in here. If you continually make references to sex and very, very underage girls, you're revealing something in your nature that you've already revealed to me. An abusiveness that has different boundaries than most would find acceptable. Simple. I've said continually that my beef with you is that almost since I started posting here you have some perverse need to go into attack mode when you see me posting. You've admitted to such in this thread, yet you keep trying to change the subject by bringing up your drunken abusive rantings, which I could do just fine to never hear about again. Chickenshit? How about coming up with some "courageous" lucid reasoning about why you are so fascinated with me, Tank? Be brave; you can baffle us with bullshit if you try, can't you? So far you're failing miserably, despite being able to enlist as much help as most would need. I don't think cutting and pasting anymore is going to do it for you. Original, lucid reasoning is what I'm looking for. Not sure if it will help, but here's a suggestion; don't do it when you're drunk. I'm just guessing that's when you're references to seven year old girls go flying, and I'm thinking that's not what you're going for here. Enlist some more help from your "buddies" while you're at it, Tank. I was highly amused by you exploding and printing what was revealed to you in private messages, without asking if you could do so. It really blew up on you for a couple of reasons, and rightly so. Stratosteve was man enough to admit it. "like we blustering types are known to occasionally do, I said some things that were "embellished" a bit." I'm sure there's some understatement in what almost amounts to an apology there. I'm equally sure that, your apology aside, your inability to be trusted as either a confidant, or as someone who gives an accurate portrayal of personal revelations, has been exposed by....you. I know that you won't have read this far, what with the whole "reasoning" thing pissing you off and all, but perhaps you can cut and paste it, forward it over to another forum, then cut and paste it from there to here again. Just in case you read this far. Ok Tank. There's "proof" at the ease with which you get angry and throw about references to underage girls. That's just one recent example of your thought patterns. I certainly don't need to "prove" anything to anybody but myself, and since I was there and I wasn't plastered, I remember it quite well. But, as I said, you seem to be the one preoccupied with using underage girls in some kind of manner with your angry internet postings. Tough guy. Keep trying to make it look like I'm the one with the problem. What "sick fantasies" are you referring to,Tank? It's "funny" how you never mentioned them before you decided it would be some kind of effective "argument". Remember; you needn't have brought this up in the first place, Tank. Since you did, I guess you're stuck with dealing with it. Whether you're drunk and angry, or just angry when you make demeaning references to underage girls with your tough guy internet persona makes no difference to me; but it clearly demonstrates the patterns you've established in your mind. If I had kept some kind of immaculate record of exactly what you said two or three years ago, it wouldn't have made one iota of difference to you, in terms of you denying it, since there would be no records here on the forum to back it up. Personally, I stopped caring about that crap from you a long time ago. You seem to be preoccupied with it, however, so keep on with your denial campaign. The part where you try to turn it around on me isn't really coming across real well, I should let you know. Perhaps you should go back to the part where I'm gay and don't actually have a daughter. Made just about as much sense. Hey, if you don't want any quotable references regarding seven year old girls, this would be a good time to stop making them. Not that I needed it, but you sure made it easy to see how you think. Nothing new there. Children, in today's class we will see putrefaction and decomposition of the human brain in action. Nah..what's interesting is that I don't see anyone but you making references in any manner to seven year old girls, Tank. Didn't take much work to find a recent example of your thought patterns is all. Oops...I already said that. I forgot; your brain is a one way device. It is just so weird and predictable that whenever you are confronted with something, you simply turn it around. Never an original thought to be found in that empty shell of yours. Cut and paste this, link to that, turn the words around and reflect them back to make them appear as though they are original...but you need to know that you're not fooling anyone, Tank. Come up with something that makes it appear as though you know how to think. Or...not.

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